Next time you are having a conversation with someone and they insist that same-sex unions are against church teachings, just point them toward this article. John Boswell wrote a book about the history of same-sex marriages and how the church has actually sanctioned these marriages for centuries.
http://anthropologist.livejournal.com/1314574.html
a slightly more lengthy article with addditional info
A fun social group that gets together to discuss current events and how they affect us as atheists. Join us for a meeting sometime. www.meetup.com/meanil
Sunday, May 13, 2012
Saturday, May 12, 2012
Would you sell your soul?
Interesting story on this weeks Freakonomics podcast that I thought I would share with you guys. It's about a guy who put out an offer to purchase someone's soul. He made offers ranging from $1-$50 to atheists that he spoke with online. He claimed that none of those who he made the offer to would take him up on it. He finally found an atheist who did and they interview them both and discuss whether or not a soul is something you can sell or should be able to. They also look at it from an economists point of view.
So the questions I pose to my fellow Meanies and other readers are,
1) Do you believe in a soul?
2) would you be willing to sell yours, even if you don't believe in it?
3) If you don't believe, would there be anything wrong with selling your soul multiple times?
Let me know what you think, I'm interested.
Link to the podcast down below.
http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/05/07/soul-possession-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/
So the questions I pose to my fellow Meanies and other readers are,
1) Do you believe in a soul?
2) would you be willing to sell yours, even if you don't believe in it?
3) If you don't believe, would there be anything wrong with selling your soul multiple times?
Let me know what you think, I'm interested.
Link to the podcast down below.
http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/05/07/soul-possession-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/
Thursday, May 3, 2012
Enjoy THIS Life
The weather broke early this year, which is part of my excuse for not having posted anything in several weeks. With that warm weather came yard projects, covering vacation at work, and participating in my primary hobby, kayaking. It's a time consuming hobby because of the preparation prior to going, driving somewhere, spending hours on the water, then traveling back and cleaning up all my river funky stuff. One of my recent outings was a 25 mile paddle on the Verdigris River in Oklahoma, a very slow river, which gave me plenty of time to enjoy my surroundings.
You may be wondering, "what does kayaking have to do with atheism?" Well, as I embark on another trip this weekend from Jefferson City, MO to just south of Hartford, IL I will spend many hours immersed in nature. When you spend that much time on a river you see a lot of nature and the countryside that most people hardly ever see or have time to notice. Travelling under your own power also gives you a lot more time to watch your surroundings, not to mention my head won't even come up as high as the handrail on most of the boats we'll pass.
In the 4.5 Billion years since the earth has formed this planet has been a hostile place for humans. Earth has only had a breathable atmosphere for about 500 million years. Knowing the real origin of the universe and our planet and the tiny chance that I am even here to witness everything around me, makes my surroundings even more beautiful. I have startled a beaver that was gnawing on a tree, a fox taking a drink of water, and unfortunately many Asian carp as well. (look them up on youtube and you'll understand) I can appreciate the beauty of nature without needing to feel that it was created just for us. Not only that but, every time I see something new, it makes me realize how little of our surroundings that we truly experience. Whether it is driving to work or paddling the Missouri River there are literally millions of lifeforms around me going about their lives. From bacteria, to insects, to all of the animals going about their business.
If I were gone tomorrow the world would go on as if I had never been here. I appreciate how precious our short time is here, we get just one chance to experience the world around us. So, Sunday morning I will be finishing a 24+ hour paddle and truly experiencing life instead of sitting in a building wasting my life worrying about an afterlife that doesn't exist. So remember to get out there and explore our world, visit a museum or a park, or just take a slow walk around your neighborhood and look closely and notice something you've never seen before.
You may be wondering, "what does kayaking have to do with atheism?" Well, as I embark on another trip this weekend from Jefferson City, MO to just south of Hartford, IL I will spend many hours immersed in nature. When you spend that much time on a river you see a lot of nature and the countryside that most people hardly ever see or have time to notice. Travelling under your own power also gives you a lot more time to watch your surroundings, not to mention my head won't even come up as high as the handrail on most of the boats we'll pass.
In the 4.5 Billion years since the earth has formed this planet has been a hostile place for humans. Earth has only had a breathable atmosphere for about 500 million years. Knowing the real origin of the universe and our planet and the tiny chance that I am even here to witness everything around me, makes my surroundings even more beautiful. I have startled a beaver that was gnawing on a tree, a fox taking a drink of water, and unfortunately many Asian carp as well. (look them up on youtube and you'll understand) I can appreciate the beauty of nature without needing to feel that it was created just for us. Not only that but, every time I see something new, it makes me realize how little of our surroundings that we truly experience. Whether it is driving to work or paddling the Missouri River there are literally millions of lifeforms around me going about their lives. From bacteria, to insects, to all of the animals going about their business.
If I were gone tomorrow the world would go on as if I had never been here. I appreciate how precious our short time is here, we get just one chance to experience the world around us. So, Sunday morning I will be finishing a 24+ hour paddle and truly experiencing life instead of sitting in a building wasting my life worrying about an afterlife that doesn't exist. So remember to get out there and explore our world, visit a museum or a park, or just take a slow walk around your neighborhood and look closely and notice something you've never seen before.
Tuesday, May 1, 2012
George Carlin's 10(ish) Commandments
George Carlin On The Ten Commandments
I have a problem with the Ten Commandments. Here it is: Why are there ten? We don't need that many. I think the list of commandments was deliberately and artificially inflated to get it up to ten. It's clearly a padded list.
Here's how it happened: About five thousand years ago, a bunch of religious and political hustlers got together to figure out how they could control people and keep them in line. They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were told, so these guys announced that God— God personally—had given one of them a list of Ten Commandments that he wanted everyone to follow. They claimed the whole thing took place on a mountaintop, when no one else was around.
But let me ask you something: When these guys were sittin' around the tent makin' all this up, why did they pick ten? Why ten? Why not nine, or eleven? I'll tell you why. Because ten sounds important. Ten sounds official. They knew if they tried eleven, people wouldn't take them seriously. People would say, "What're you kiddin' me? The Eleven Commandments? Get the fuck outta here!"
But ten! Ten sounds important. Ten is the basis for the decimal system; it's a decade. It's a psychologically satisfying number: the top ten; the ten most wanted; the ten best-dressed. So deciding on Ten Commandments was clearly a marketing decision. And it's obviously a bullshit list. In truth, it's a politic; document, artificially inflated to sell better.
I'm going to show you how you can reduce the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a bit more logical and realistic. We'll start with the first three, and I'll use the Roman Catholic version because those are the ones I was fed as a little boy.
• I AM THE LORD THY GOD, THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE
GODS BEFORE ME.
GODS BEFORE ME.
• THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN
VAIN.
VAIN.
• THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH.
Okay, right off the bat, the first three commandments—pure bullshit "Sabbath day," "Lord's name," "strange gods." Spooky language. Spooky language designed to scare and control primitive people. In no way does superstitious mumbo jumbo like this apply to the lives of intelligent, civilized human in the twenty-first century. You throw out the first three commandments, am you're down to seven.
•HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER.
This commandment is about obedience and respect for authority; in other words it's simply a device for controlling people. The truth is, obedience and respect should not be granted automatically. They should be earned. They should be based on the parents' (or the authority figure's) performance. Some parents deserve respect. Most of them don't. Period. We're down to six.
Now, in the interest of logic—something religion has a really hard time with—I'm going to skip around the list a little bit:
• THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.
• THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.
Stealing and lying. Actually, when you think about it, these two commandments cover the same sort of behavior: dishonesty. Stealing and lying. So we don't need two of them. Instead, we combine these two and call it "Thou shalt not be dishonest." Suddenly we're down to five.
And as long as we're combining commandments I have two others that belong together:
• THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.
• THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE.

Once again, these two prohibit the same sort of behavior; in this case, marital infidelity. The difference between them is that coveting takes place in the mind. And I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife, otherwise what's a guy gonna think about when he's flogging his dong?
But marital fidelity is a good idea, so I suggest we keep the idea and call this commandment "Thou shalt not be unfaithful." Suddenly we're down to four.
And when you think about it further, honesty and fidelity are actually parts of the same overall value. So, in truth, we could combine the two honesty commandments with the two fidelity commandments, and, using positive language instead of negative, call the whole thing "Thou shalt always be honest and faithful." And now we're down to three.
•THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S GOODS.
This one is just plain stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is what keeps the economy going: Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "O Come All Ye Faithful," you want to get one, too. Coveting creates jobs. Leave it alone.
You throw out coveting and you're down to two now: the big, combined honesty/fidelity commandment, and the one we haven't mentioned yet:
•THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
Murder. The Fifth Commandment. But, if you give it a little thought, you realize that religion has never really had a problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.
To cite a few examples, just think about Irish history, the Middle East, the Crusades, the Inquisition, our own abortion-doctor killings and, yes, the World Trade Center to see how seriously religious people take Thou Shalt Not Kill. Apparently, to religious folks—especially the truly devout—murder is negotiable. It just depends on who's doing the killing and who's getting killed.
And so, with all of this in mind, folks, I offer you my revised list of the Two Commandments:
First:
•THOU SHALT ALWAYS BE HONEST AND FAITHFUL, ESPECIALLYTO THE PROVIDER OF THY NOOKIE.
And second:
•THOU SHALT TRY REAL HARD NOT TO KILL ANYONE, UNLESS,
OF COURSE, THEY PRAY TO A DIFFERENT INVISIBLE AVENGER
THAN THE ONE YOU PRAY TO.
OF COURSE, THEY PRAY TO A DIFFERENT INVISIBLE AVENGER
THAN THE ONE YOU PRAY TO.
Two is all you need, folks. Moses could have carried them down the hill in his pocket. And if we had a list like that, I wouldn't mind that brilliant judge in Alabama displaying it prominently in his courthouse lobby. As long he included one additional commandment:
•THOU SHALT KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF!!!
From George Carlin – When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops (2004)
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